Comments on: Shotgun hunting for deer? http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/ How to hunt turkey - a very popular pastime. Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:30:57 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ret. Sgt. http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/comment-page-1/#comment-184 Ret. Sgt. Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:04:39 +0000 http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/#comment-184 I have basically the same gun but I also bought a rifled barrel. The only problem with the rifled barrel is you can pretty much only use certain ammo and it is about 2 bucks a shot. You gun is a fine gun for deer. I like a scope on mine because I like to make sure what I am seeing and my eyes just aren't as good as they used to be. Our shots are usually under 50 yards also, so I just keep the scope at about 4 power. I would give Remington a call to see if they think using slugs in your extra full choke is ok. Naturally they will tell you THEIR ammo is safe so if it is, you can use whatever you want.The rifling on the slug isn't so much for spin but also allows the lands to flatten to accommodate tight chokes. I just like having the two barrels even though the smooth bore is short with rifle sights, I can use shot in that if I need to . I rarely get to hunt smaller game with a smooth bore shotgun so the rifled bore stays on the shotgun and my future son-in-law uses it while I use a muzzle loader. I have basically the same gun but I also bought a rifled barrel. The only problem with the rifled barrel is you can pretty much only use certain ammo and it is about 2 bucks a shot. You gun is a fine gun for deer.

I like a scope on mine because I like to make sure what I am seeing and my eyes just aren’t as good as they used to be. Our shots are usually under 50 yards also, so I just keep the scope at about 4 power.

I would give Remington a call to see if they think using slugs in your extra full choke is ok. Naturally they will tell you THEIR ammo is safe so if it is, you can use whatever you want.The rifling on the slug isn’t so much for spin but also allows the lands to flatten to accommodate tight chokes.

I just like having the two barrels even though the smooth bore is short with rifle sights, I can use shot in that if I need to . I rarely get to hunt smaller game with a smooth bore shotgun so the rifled bore stays on the shotgun and my future son-in-law uses it while I use a muzzle loader.

]]> By: Donald S http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/comment-page-1/#comment-183 Donald S Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:35:19 +0000 http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/#comment-183 I have only used a shotgun once. It was a model 31 Remington in full choke, 12 gauge. Regular rifled slugs. I shot at a running buck and was lucky . Right in the skull. He somersaulted and I crawled over to him and field dressed him. ( I was on crutches having broken my leg skiing. My two boys carried him to the car on a pole). The range was under 50 yards. This was in Kenosha county, WI. Shotgun only county. Just a front bead on the gun. Normally I use a rifle and go to rifle counties. I have only used a shotgun once. It was a model 31 Remington in full choke, 12 gauge. Regular rifled slugs. I shot at a running buck and was lucky . Right in the skull. He somersaulted and I crawled over to him and field dressed him. ( I was on crutches having broken my leg skiing. My two boys carried him to the car on a pole). The range was under 50 yards. This was in Kenosha county, WI. Shotgun only county. Just a front bead on the gun.
Normally I use a rifle and go to rifle counties.

]]> By: METROPOLIS1 http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/comment-page-1/#comment-182 METROPOLIS1 Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:22:49 +0000 http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/#comment-182 Open sights is the way to go.... Even with my glasses off I don't have a problem hitting 12 inch steel plates to 100 yards using iron sights.. and this is with one of those short barrel police type shotguns..... Of course I have had a bit of practice.... With a little practice you will have absolutely no difficulty hitting a deer within 75 yards...... Get an open choke so to speak... Some company's call it an improved cylinder choke..... I recommend 2 3/4 inch foster type slugs (regular slugs)..... Brenneke KO or Black Magic slugs will work fine.... Federal Power-Shok 2 3/4 inch slugs for me have been the most accurate and has a tiny bit less recoil... Not much less but just enough where I can fire 25 slugs in a practice session without hurting my shoulder..... Open sights is the way to go…. Even with my glasses off I don’t have a problem hitting 12 inch steel plates to 100 yards using iron sights.. and this is with one of those short barrel police type shotguns….. Of course I have had a bit of practice…. With a little practice you will have absolutely no difficulty hitting a deer within 75 yards……

Get an open choke so to speak… Some company’s call it an improved cylinder choke…..

I recommend 2 3/4 inch foster type slugs (regular slugs)….. Brenneke KO or Black Magic slugs will work fine…. Federal Power-Shok 2 3/4 inch slugs for me have been the most accurate and has a tiny bit less recoil… Not much less but just enough where I can fire 25 slugs in a practice session without hurting my shoulder…..

]]> By: Dee http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/comment-page-1/#comment-181 Dee Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:45:58 +0000 http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/#comment-181 I used to hunt the same way and I just used an improved cylinder choke tube. If you can get a cylinder choke tube it will be even better. Just make sure you can pick a good line of sight with the shotgun and make sure you use rifled slugs. I used to set up an 8 inch paper plate at 50 yards and practice until I could get 5 in the plate. If you can do that you can shoot a deer standing still. I like federal slugs and I loved Brenneke slugs. Do not use sabot slugs unless you get a rifled barrel. Good luck hunting I have harvested over a dozen deer with your current set up, just be ethical and don't try and take the impossible long range shot. I used to hunt the same way and I just used an improved cylinder choke tube. If you can get a cylinder choke tube it will be even better. Just make sure you can pick a good line of sight with the shotgun and make sure you use rifled slugs. I used to set up an 8 inch paper plate at 50 yards and practice until I could get 5 in the plate. If you can do that you can shoot a deer standing still. I like federal slugs and I loved Brenneke slugs. Do not use sabot slugs unless you get a rifled barrel. Good luck hunting I have harvested over a dozen deer with your current set up, just be ethical and don’t try and take the impossible long range shot.

]]> By: whitefeather50 http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/comment-page-1/#comment-180 whitefeather50 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:47:05 +0000 http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/#comment-180 Well let me tell ya. From my experience on this, I would not use a full choke in the barrel, it throws the slug all over. Go with a modified or improved cylinder for best results, there is also a rifled choke on the market. I would also look into rifled slugs. Federal makes Vital Shok just for smooth bore, more for slug barrel but would probably work good in bird barrel with different choke. They tend to be more accurate than traditional non-rifled. I have shot many different slugs through my bird barrel at deer. I have found that rifled Winchesters work better than rifled Remington or Federals in my Mossberg 500. Since your gun is a Remington I would suggest trying Remington rifled slugs. The lot number on the side of the slug box is another critical factor. Even if you do stick with Remington rifled slugs, it doesn't mean they are the same. If you find a box of ammo that shoots straight on the range, go back to the store and find the same lot number on each box you buy. You may want to buy a box of each brand just to see what your gun likes. It basically comes down to what your gun shoots the best. I wouldn't shoot sabot or Hornady through a bird barrel, let alone a smooth bore slug barrel. Good luck this season. Well let me tell ya. From my experience on this, I would not use a full choke in the barrel, it throws the slug all over. Go with a modified or improved cylinder for best results, there is also a rifled choke on the market. I would also look into rifled slugs. Federal makes Vital Shok just for smooth bore, more for slug barrel but would probably work good in bird barrel with different choke. They tend to be more accurate than traditional non-rifled. I have shot many different slugs through my bird barrel at deer. I have found that rifled Winchesters work better than rifled Remington or Federals in my Mossberg 500. Since your gun is a Remington I would suggest trying Remington rifled slugs. The lot number on the side of the slug box is another critical factor. Even if you do stick with Remington rifled slugs, it doesn’t mean they are the same. If you find a box of ammo that shoots straight on the range, go back to the store and find the same lot number on each box you buy. You may want to buy a box of each brand just to see what your gun likes. It basically comes down to what your gun shoots the best. I wouldn’t shoot sabot or Hornady through a bird barrel, let alone a smooth bore slug barrel. Good luck this season.

]]> By: dca2003311@yahoo.com http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/comment-page-1/#comment-179 dca2003311@yahoo.com Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:01:11 +0000 http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/#comment-179 If your barrel is a smooth bore, and not a rifled one then you need to use a improved cylinder choke only for best accuracy, and so you do not damage your barrel.* Manufactures recommend you only shoot rifled slugs from a improved cylinder only.* Use the Winchester Brand Rackmaster-tm rifled slug in the 3 inch shell length.* Muzzle velocity is 1,700 feet per second according to the Winchester Product Ballistics Service Manuel for 2008.* No scope required or needed.* If your barrel is a smooth bore, and not a rifled one then you need to use a improved cylinder choke only for best accuracy, and so you do not damage your barrel.* Manufactures recommend you only shoot rifled slugs from a improved cylinder only.* Use the Winchester Brand Rackmaster-tm rifled slug in the 3 inch shell length.* Muzzle velocity is 1,700 feet per second according to the Winchester Product Ballistics Service Manuel for 2008.* No scope required or needed.*

]]> By: balttigger http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/comment-page-1/#comment-178 balttigger Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:24:24 +0000 http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/#comment-178 For slugs, you don't want to choke the barrel as chokes are only for constricting the pattern of shot coming out of the barrel BUT you don't want to remove the choke entirely as this can ruin the barrel. Use the Improved Cylinder choke as it is the most open to allow free passage of the slug. As far as which slug to use, several manufacturers make slugs that have angled ridges on them so that they start to spin as they travel the smooth barrel so you have some minor rifling of the bullet on the barrel. Just look for ammo that says Rifled Slug. Now lastly, as far as optics. If you are shooting at 50-75 yards there really is no need for a scope. In fact, you may be better using open sights as it allows yo to track a moving target better. Just learn where your point of impact is and adjust your sighting to compensate....on my Browning I have to shoot just a little low and to the right for a rifled slug and it's deadly accurate out to 75 yards on a smooth bore. If you plan on doing any shooting at longer distances, get the rifled barrel with a cantilever rail for a scope mount. You can always get sights that mount to the rail if you don't want optics. Good Luck! For slugs, you don’t want to choke the barrel as chokes are only for constricting the pattern of shot coming out of the barrel BUT you don’t want to remove the choke entirely as this can ruin the barrel. Use the Improved Cylinder choke as it is the most open to allow free passage of the slug.

As far as which slug to use, several manufacturers make slugs that have angled ridges on them so that they start to spin as they travel the smooth barrel so you have some minor rifling of the bullet on the barrel. Just look for ammo that says Rifled Slug.

Now lastly, as far as optics. If you are shooting at 50-75 yards there really is no need for a scope. In fact, you may be better using open sights as it allows yo to track a moving target better. Just learn where your point of impact is and adjust your sighting to compensate….on my Browning I have to shoot just a little low and to the right for a rifled slug and it’s deadly accurate out to 75 yards on a smooth bore.

If you plan on doing any shooting at longer distances, get the rifled barrel with a cantilever rail for a scope mount. You can always get sights that mount to the rail if you don’t want optics.

Good Luck!

]]> By: Zakk W http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/comment-page-1/#comment-177 Zakk W Fri, 02 Oct 2009 04:56:08 +0000 http://www.turkey--hunting.com/2009/09/28/shotgun-hunting-for-deer/#comment-177 I'm not familiar with your gun, but what I can tell you is that you shouldn't need a scope. If you're shooting a deer with a shotgun you don't want to be too much further than 60 yards from it. Slugs are heavy and fall quickly, they're best at close range. I’m not familiar with your gun, but what I can tell you is that you shouldn’t need a scope. If you’re shooting a deer with a shotgun you don’t want to be too much further than 60 yards from it. Slugs are heavy and fall quickly, they’re best at close range.

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